I've been using the conocb2 topical clinical strength for a few years and I love it, the quick and effective it removes all kinds of pain, joints, muscles, nerve pain, my mothers diabetic neuropathy, my chronic nerve damage, from 13 back surgeries 2 cervical surgeries, and I have never found anything that works as fast as this does for pain, most of the time the pain is gone before I can finish rubbing it in, just as good as morphine without the side effects or addiction other than being addicted to being pain free and cheaper than paying for pain medication, thank you GDR